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Bonsoir,
si at midday et at noon sont équivalents pour parler de midi ou de l'heure de midi ( repas ), l'un est il mieux que l'autre ?
Merci pour vos réponses..
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Modifié par lucile83 le 09-11-2014 20:36
Réponse: 12 am/ aide de sherry48, postée le 09-11-2014 à 22:01:48 (S | E)
Hello.
I think noon or noon time is used most frequently in the US.
Sherry
Réponse: 12 am/ aide de kiwy, postée le 10-11-2014 à 12:15:25 (S | E)
Thanks, but in USA and UK too ?
Kiwy from Belgium.
Réponse: 12 am/ aide de violet91, postée le 10-11-2014 à 12:29:07 (S | E)
Hello ,
One could say they are identical . To my opinion,I should think 'noon' is a little less common use than midday, more literary somehow .
At noon ( 12 o'clock AM )and at midday both mean 12 AM ; midday might have a more flexible meaning = at lunchtime .
Réponse: 12 am/ aide de kiwy, postée le 10-11-2014 à 18:36:46 (S | E)
Hello, thanks a lot, now it's clear.
See you soon.
Réponse: 12 am/ aide de jonquille, postée le 11-11-2014 à 02:08:54 (S | E)
Hello!
I'm not sure how it is looked at in Europe, but here 12 AM means midnight, and 12 PM means noon.
I agree with Sherry, the word "noon" or "noontime" is used more frequently than "midday" in the .
jonquille
Réponse: 12 am/ aide de violet91, postée le 11-11-2014 à 12:27:21 (S | E)
Hello jonquille ,
Thank you for rising that interesting point ! ' Accepted and conventional rules ' . Actually , we'd better use midday or noon and midnight , avoiding the problem of the abbrevation informing about the position before or after the Meridiem ! or 12 midday, 12 noon -12 midnight . O'clock explicit enough ...
Noon hour , noon time , midday : 12 am or pm ?
Midnight : 12 pm or am ? ......a 'toughie ' question. How about looking at it on 'logical and astronomical' points of view : here are links which could help or puzzle a little more ( I am not a specialist though , therefore unassertive ) :
-The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language has a usage note on this topic: "By convention, 12 AM denotes midnight and 12 PM denotes noon. Because of the potential for confusion, it is advisable to use 12 noon and 12 midnight."[18]Many U.S. style guides, and NIST's "Frequently asked questions (FAQ)" web page,[17] recommend that it is clearest if one refers to "noon" or "12:00 noon" and "midnight" or "12:00 midnight" (rather than to "12:00 p.m." and "12:00 a.m.").In Britain, various conventions are employed. TV mag, "Sun" newspaper, London, 17 December 2005 uses "noon (12.00)" and "midnight (0.00)" ( wik.)
This is perhaps the trickiest time question of them all. The best answer is that the terms 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. cause confusion and should not be used.
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